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	<title>Comments on: So some academics&#8217; emails have been hacked &#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Rah</title>
		<link>http://www.groupthink.com.au/2009/11/23/so-some-academics-emails-have-been-hacked/comment-page-1/#comment-633</link>
		<dc:creator>Rah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to note what happens when scientists actually do release basic observational data relating to climate change to sceptics. The sceptics, just use it to lie, as recently happened in NZ. Goes to show exactly why UK scientists are sick of releasing data to people who havent a friken idea... as the saying goes, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to note what happens when scientists actually do release basic observational data relating to climate change to sceptics. The sceptics, just use it to lie, as recently happened in NZ. Goes to show exactly why UK scientists are sick of releasing data to people who havent a friken idea&#8230; as the saying goes, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Molesworth</title>
		<link>http://www.groupthink.com.au/2009/11/23/so-some-academics-emails-have-been-hacked/comment-page-1/#comment-627</link>
		<dc:creator>Molesworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the most shocking revelation in this saga is the scientists are informal and not always polite. They are, in fact, people. Who knew?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most shocking revelation in this saga is the scientists are informal and not always polite. They are, in fact, people. Who knew?</p>
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		<title>By: stace</title>
		<link>http://www.groupthink.com.au/2009/11/23/so-some-academics-emails-have-been-hacked/comment-page-1/#comment-610</link>
		<dc:creator>stace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blimey. Forgot where I was for a moment and read Piers Akerman&#039;s demented diatribe on the climate hoax emails in the Terror - what a gibbering fat turkey wipe that guy is.

Sometimes I want to give up and say, Yes. You&#039;re right. We were secretly plotting to replace your 4WDs with vegetables carriages. Yes, we&#039;ve been lied to for years - humans actually breathe carbon dioxide, not oxygen. Yes. The sun is very hot. Gosh. Your crayon graph is just, well it&#039;s brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey. Forgot where I was for a moment and read Piers Akerman&#8217;s demented diatribe on the climate hoax emails in the Terror &#8211; what a gibbering fat turkey wipe that guy is.</p>
<p>Sometimes I want to give up and say, Yes. You&#8217;re right. We were secretly plotting to replace your 4WDs with vegetables carriages. Yes, we&#8217;ve been lied to for years &#8211; humans actually breathe carbon dioxide, not oxygen. Yes. The sun is very hot. Gosh. Your crayon graph is just, well it&#8217;s brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: stewie</title>
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		<dc:creator>stewie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes hacked by patriots! The tree of liberty’s roots need fresh blood! The warmenistas are busted, their confabulatory conspiracy made plain. The islamofascists, single mothers and the gays too and they all want to take my gun’s off me - the commie nazi bastards. It’s all there, Michael Moore, Al Gore, Britney Spears, Osama Bin Laden, the NZ coach of the Wallabies (name cannot be spoken) they’re all on the cc lists. Numerous decades of research on publicly available data notwithstanding, this is damning proof! - of the power of science to overcome individual peccadilloes of researchers in order to compile a fairly accurate picture of what’s happening. Are you 100% certain? No, but pretty confident. Me I’m happy betting on the long shot that benefits my conservative powerbroker mates and all the businesses and assets they own. But that’s alright ‘cos I’m a rebel (cue banjo playing dixie), yee–haa! yeah a rebel against all this socialism and informed debate and using my god given brain to think critically, Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes hacked by patriots! The tree of liberty’s roots need fresh blood! The warmenistas are busted, their confabulatory conspiracy made plain. The islamofascists, single mothers and the gays too and they all want to take my gun’s off me &#8211; the commie nazi bastards. It’s all there, Michael Moore, Al Gore, Britney Spears, Osama Bin Laden, the NZ coach of the Wallabies (name cannot be spoken) they’re all on the cc lists. Numerous decades of research on publicly available data notwithstanding, this is damning proof! &#8211; of the power of science to overcome individual peccadilloes of researchers in order to compile a fairly accurate picture of what’s happening. Are you 100% certain? No, but pretty confident. Me I’m happy betting on the long shot that benefits my conservative powerbroker mates and all the businesses and assets they own. But that’s alright ‘cos I’m a rebel (cue banjo playing dixie), yee–haa! yeah a rebel against all this socialism and informed debate and using my god given brain to think critically, Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Ant Rogenous</title>
		<link>http://www.groupthink.com.au/2009/11/23/so-some-academics-emails-have-been-hacked/comment-page-1/#comment-605</link>
		<dc:creator>Ant Rogenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;... it’s not unusual for scientists to be biased toward their own pet theories, or for researchers to seek out positive evidence that supports their theories at the expense of the negative stuff that doesn’t.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This method of gathering and disseminating information would sound eerily familiar to Andrew Bolt and those of his ilk if they had an iota of self-awareness between them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230; it’s not unusual for scientists to be biased toward their own pet theories, or for researchers to seek out positive evidence that supports their theories at the expense of the negative stuff that doesn’t.</p></blockquote>
<p>This method of gathering and disseminating information would sound eerily familiar to Andrew Bolt and those of his ilk if they had an iota of self-awareness between them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Pastry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Pastry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thermometer goes up and down like a yoyo every day, why aren&#039;t the politicians doing something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thermometer goes up and down like a yoyo every day, why aren&#8217;t the politicians doing something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: David F</title>
		<link>http://www.groupthink.com.au/2009/11/23/so-some-academics-emails-have-been-hacked/comment-page-1/#comment-602</link>
		<dc:creator>David F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted, but how much trust ought there to be in any case? I&#039;m not suggesting these characters were doing best-practice scientifical stuff, but it&#039;s not unusual for scientists to be biased toward their own pet theories, or for researchers to seek out positive evidence that supports their theories at the expense of the negative stuff that doesn&#039;t. Journals in the health sciences, for instance, may not even publish a negative result. The trollumnists here have gotten themselves over-excited about a point that&#039;s trivial and apparently well-known to everybody except them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted, but how much trust ought there to be in any case? I&#8217;m not suggesting these characters were doing best-practice scientifical stuff, but it&#8217;s not unusual for scientists to be biased toward their own pet theories, or for researchers to seek out positive evidence that supports their theories at the expense of the negative stuff that doesn&#8217;t. Journals in the health sciences, for instance, may not even publish a negative result. The trollumnists here have gotten themselves over-excited about a point that&#8217;s trivial and apparently well-known to everybody except them.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Bridges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Bridges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been very busy the past few days so haven&#039;t seen much of this email material, but what I&#039;ve seen hasn&#039;t been the kind of stuff that&#039;s going to help build trust in science. It&#039;s a shame that one set of actions in one small section of the scientific community has given certain trollumnists a free kick and helped them to smear the entirety of climate science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been very busy the past few days so haven&#8217;t seen much of this email material, but what I&#8217;ve seen hasn&#8217;t been the kind of stuff that&#8217;s going to help build trust in science. It&#8217;s a shame that one set of actions in one small section of the scientific community has given certain trollumnists a free kick and helped them to smear the entirety of climate science.</p>
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